I never heard of either until now. I looked; very promising to address the syntactic problems, for sure. But what I’m looking for is a higher level of abstraction for placing content on the page. Something like the tcl/tk widget packer (which I think Ruby borrowed, and possibly other languages) would be great. All this static/relative/absolute nonsense just to get elements where I want them makes me bonkers. “Put this on the bottom.” Too hard. Not portable. Stinky.
Well…sometimes. But often not. BTW, since replying to replies died and I had to do this with a screengrabber, I put this in a file called tiff.tiff, which amuses me. :)